Jaredson
Wed, 23 Jan 2008, 01:16
Yeah so I have posted this in a few places and figured I would share my thinking with you all.
So today I was running my all body thrax hybrid to the new "sanctus grotto" instance in Descent. I noticed something peculiar. My play style over the months has become more of a use MG for single target dps (read big bad mobs) and staff + logos for everything else. I find that I hold the staff, and if I aggro only one mob that is close I shoot him with it. If I aggro mobs at range I pull them closer to me through pillar pulls. Then I use my logos to kill them all. Particualarly a deadly combo of Vortex and shrapnel or on my forean, vortex, scourge, shrapnel, shrapnel. this will typically kill up to 6 mobs fine. Even with my low mind thrax it works well. With this strategy I usually dont use my staff on packs until I run out of power but, with my Forean usually they die before I run out and with my brann I regen too fast to run out of power (most of the time).
Of course I learned this technique playing my human post 1.3, depending on which server he has either all mind or a 2 mind 1 spirit build. But even after the buff to staff I find shrapnel 3 outperforms it, even if cast by a thrax with no points in mind. Even with up to 6 mobs every hit with shrapnel does more damage than my melee. I can usually get enough shrapnels off in the 2 seconds it takes to fire my staff to do the same damage the staff range does or more against more mobs at the same range even.
Now I will never ask for the nerfing of logos to make the staff seem better. In fact I love my logos. But the question is whether this is common with other weapons? Of course single target dps cant be beat by the chaingun, but are there any other weapons out performed by logos available to the classes that use them? I just dont see a way to up staffs damage any more than after 1.4 without making it imba. perhaps realising that it is not the weapon of this class that makes it so good, but the skills available.
so I think that leaves 4 questions-
What other weapons are dwarfed by the logos available to their class?
How can we make them shine?
Should we make them shine?
Should Guardians practice more logos heavy strategies?
So today I was running my all body thrax hybrid to the new "sanctus grotto" instance in Descent. I noticed something peculiar. My play style over the months has become more of a use MG for single target dps (read big bad mobs) and staff + logos for everything else. I find that I hold the staff, and if I aggro only one mob that is close I shoot him with it. If I aggro mobs at range I pull them closer to me through pillar pulls. Then I use my logos to kill them all. Particualarly a deadly combo of Vortex and shrapnel or on my forean, vortex, scourge, shrapnel, shrapnel. this will typically kill up to 6 mobs fine. Even with my low mind thrax it works well. With this strategy I usually dont use my staff on packs until I run out of power but, with my Forean usually they die before I run out and with my brann I regen too fast to run out of power (most of the time).
Of course I learned this technique playing my human post 1.3, depending on which server he has either all mind or a 2 mind 1 spirit build. But even after the buff to staff I find shrapnel 3 outperforms it, even if cast by a thrax with no points in mind. Even with up to 6 mobs every hit with shrapnel does more damage than my melee. I can usually get enough shrapnels off in the 2 seconds it takes to fire my staff to do the same damage the staff range does or more against more mobs at the same range even.
Now I will never ask for the nerfing of logos to make the staff seem better. In fact I love my logos. But the question is whether this is common with other weapons? Of course single target dps cant be beat by the chaingun, but are there any other weapons out performed by logos available to the classes that use them? I just dont see a way to up staffs damage any more than after 1.4 without making it imba. perhaps realising that it is not the weapon of this class that makes it so good, but the skills available.
so I think that leaves 4 questions-
What other weapons are dwarfed by the logos available to their class?
How can we make them shine?
Should we make them shine?
Should Guardians practice more logos heavy strategies?